Core Beliefs: Supreme Being
Abstraction vs Concrete Reality
However, the intensity level of your belief even if it reaches all the way to the moon, changes nothing! I mention this only to point out that I do not accept “God said so!” as a logical argument in a debate. Have a great day!
Previously, it was my assertion that the idea of a “Higher Being” must be considered an abstraction. In light of receiving new information, I have decided to change my world view and concede that for some others, the idea of a “Higher Being” is considered as concrete reality. As a critical thinker that relies on facts, logic and reasoning, I now have no idea how I will proceed in debates with super religious fanatics!
Core Beliefs
Both Abstraction and Concrete Reality
To prevent misunderstandings and save myself time with explanations, I am providing common definitions regarding the ideas about a Supreme Being as an Abstraction. I have highlighted the areas that I relate to, the most.
Sent by you: How is it possible for something to be both an abstraction and a concrete reality?
Sent by ChatGPT: Something can be both an abstraction and a concrete reality depending on the perspective, context, and the way it is experienced or conceptualized. This dual nature arises when a concept or entity has multiple levels of meaning or existence — one that is abstract (conceptual, theoretical) and another that is concrete (tangible, experiential). Let’s explore how this dual nature works:
- Different Levels of Understanding
- Abstract Level: At this level, an idea or entity is understood in a broad, generalized, or idealized sense. It represents principles, qualities, or universals that are not tied to any specific, tangible form. For example, the concept of “justice” is an abstraction; it represents a universal principle or ideal.
- Concrete Level: At this level, the idea or entity manifests in a specific, particular, or tangible form. It can be perceived, experienced, or interacted with in a direct way. For instance, “justice” becomes concrete when a court makes a ruling, or a society enacts a law to uphold fairness.
- Contextual Shifts
- Religious Contexts: In religious or spiritual contexts, a Supreme Being can be seen as both an abstraction and a concrete reality. On the one hand, the Supreme Being is an abstract idea representing the ultimate source of existence, power, or morality. On the other hand, believers might experience this being in a concrete way through personal encounters, prayers, rituals, or sacred texts.
- Philosophical Contexts: Philosophers often speak of entities that are both abstract and concrete, such as Plato’s theory of forms. For Plato, “forms” are abstract, perfect ideals (like “the Good,” “the Just,” or “the Beautiful”) that exist in a non-material realm, yet they have concrete manifestations in the material world (e.g., specific good deeds, just actions, beautiful objects).
- Dual Aspects in Everyday Concepts
- Love as an Example: Love is an abstraction when considered as a concept or ideal — an emotion or force that transcends physical experience. At the same time, love can be a concrete reality when expressed through actions, relationships, or specific feelings. People experience love both as an idealized concept (abstract) and through tangible actions and experiences (concrete).
- Time as Another Example: Time is often considered an abstraction — a dimension or a construct that helps us understand the sequence of events. Yet, time has concrete effects in our lives, like aging, the ticking of a clock, or the passing of a day. We experience time both as a conceptual framework and as a tangible, measurable reality.
- Integration of Abstract and Concrete
- Symbolic Objects: Some objects serve as a bridge between the abstract and the concrete. For example, a nation’s flag is a piece of cloth (concrete), but it represents abstract ideals like freedom, unity, or identity. The flag exists in the physical world but embodies abstract values that go beyond its material form.
- Art and Literature: Works of art and literature often embody abstract ideas (such as themes of love, mortality, or justice) in concrete forms like paintings, sculptures, or narratives. A painting can be a concrete object that conveys abstract concepts or emotions, allowing the viewer to engage with both levels simultaneously.
- Experiential Reality
- Human Experience: Human beings often perceive and engage with abstract concepts in a very real, concrete way. For example, the concept of “hope” is abstract, yet a person experiencing hope feels it as a concrete reality in their emotions, thoughts, and actions. This duality reflects the complexity of how humans make sense of and interact with the world.
Conclusion:
Something can be both an abstraction and a concrete reality because these two states exist on different levels of understanding or experience. The abstract form represents a broader, generalized concept or ideal, while the concrete form represents its specific, tangible manifestation in the world. Many profound ideas, entities, and experiences are complex enough to exist simultaneously on both levels, depending on how they are perceived, interpreted, or interacted with.
Something can be both an abstraction and a concrete reality because these two states exist on different levels of understanding or experience. The abstract form represents a broader, generalized concept or ideal, while the concrete form represents its specific, tangible manifestation in the world. Many profound ideas, entities, and experiences are complex enough to exist simultaneously on both levels, depending on how they are perceived, interpreted, or interacted with.